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the topic today I'd like to talk about

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it goes back to some observations years

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ago by Spottiswoode that there is a

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certain time of day when ESP reception

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is better than average by a considerable

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amount and offer a possible explanation

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of that based on some of the recent

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Russian work on what they call torsion

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which is not very well understood in the

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u.s. that's my background we won't dwell

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on that but as a physicist

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it was my background and I got into this

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weird stuff about 15 20 years ago when I

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began realizing that there were

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observational anomalies that do apply to

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physics and our present Western science

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I can't really explain it by and large a

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lot of it gets overlooked my new book

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life force 1,500 references 400 figures

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tries to pull together all the evidence

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for some of these anomalies in energy

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healing and and the subjects like that

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we have long-range effects that go on

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that is very difficult to explain by the

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Western scientific model they don't

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weaken with distance they pass through

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barriers etc there's quite a bit of data

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my my my simple model for for subtle

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energy is that it basically seems to

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affect other forces it shows up in many

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different guises and affects the other

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basic forces of physics so these are the

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seven the six blind scientists and the

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subtle energy elephant and it appears in

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different ways maybe one of the reasons

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why it's taken so long for Western

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science to seriously address subtle

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energy and develop a science of it I

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know that Yuri Cronin joins talking

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earlier this morning about a fifth force

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that's one way to look at it another way

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is that it may change the metric and

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they change the background in which the

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other forces of physics op

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right as you well know there are plenty

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of experiments in recent years you hit

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me in the back and I Loudon up in the

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back by the way I guess I am okay good

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recent years lots of data in the book my

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book has lots and lots of examples of

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this of experiments like joy Jones

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the other mic if that's okay with you

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can we do that or is this okay instead

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always wanted to do that okay thank you

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this is some of the joy Jones

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experiments done with a CLA cells and

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long distance healing just showing that

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over time there's a 10-year plus

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experiment there's enormous amounts of

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data to show that real healing the the

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lifetime of cells which have been

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damaged by gamma radiation is greatly

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enhanced with energy healing it turns

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out not to matter how far away you are

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of when sending this energy the great

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Chinese chi gong master dr. jung jin

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began working with the national physics

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institute in china back in the 1980s

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he's one of the very very powerful chi

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gong master who was discovered the age

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for the physics Institute did things

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like the following experiment this is

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decay of americium radioactive element

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has a certain decay rate average it's

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constant over time we don't really know

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in the West much how to change how fast

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something decays but if you asked the

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chi gong master he could change the

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increase or decrease the decay rate on

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command and did not matter how far away

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he was this data here is 1900 Kalama

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away another chi gong master dr. Jick

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sigelei offices in California as well as

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in China experiments with Penn State

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University was shown able to kill cancer

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cells at a distance of over two thousand

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miles in an incubator petri dishes that

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he would be told which petri dish to aim

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at and he could kill the cancer cells in

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that petri dish and not hurt the other

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ones so the growth rates here of the

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control and the ones bending over are

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the growth rates of the ones he's

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sending his Chi energy at these are also

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Raman spectra of water

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similarly the bonding can be changed by

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over distances this also can be changed

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that the bottom line is that in serious

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experiments with some of the people who

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are the best in the field very high

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signal-to-noise effects are observed one

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of the the most famous Chinese American

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scientist dr. Chynn who Shen who

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emigrated with great fanfare a few years

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ago - from the u.s. back to China

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started their rocket program but before

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that he was one of the founders at Jet

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Propulsion lab at Caltech named Person

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of the Year 1988 by aviation week and

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space technology his evaluation of this

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series of experiments is as follows

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these experimental results but dr. jung

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jin and his coworkers are a first in the

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world they unequivocally demonstrate

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that without touching substances the

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human body can affect them and change

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their molecular structures and

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properties they are new scientific

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discoveries and the prelude to a

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scientific revolution so it's unlike any

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other force in physics and it's a

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prelude to a scientific revolution so as

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one of our jobs as scientists is trying

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to understand the nature of this force

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how it behaves and start to develop

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theories to explain it

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in my book I pulled together the best

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evidence I can find from other prior

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scientists on Reichenbach in Germany

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many others they reviewed there the

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important reason I did that was to

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compare them to the Russian data on

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torsion there is a pretty good-sized

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body of information that has did come

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out but it's partial it's not complete

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and I wanted to be able to compare it

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for sanity checks with other people's

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experiments to get a sense for how

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believable some of the data was Nikolay

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house Arab was the original discoverer

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of what they call torsion back in the

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50s by observing double star systems he

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calls it the physical component of time

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the time density which he concluded was

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being changed in some of these stellar

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processes he says that the order is lost

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the entropy increases in one system but

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it can be transmitted by changing the

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density of time to the substance of the

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detector so there's an effect here that

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can transmit and radiate through space

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work function of electrons many other

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physical properties he postulated and

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in irreversible processes it affects the

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flow of time and virtually every other

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physical process here's a quote from

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another of the russian torsion

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late 90s major experimental

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confirmed the theoretical predictions it

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allow us not only to replicate all

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phenomena demonstrated by so-called

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psychics but they are also able to

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demonstrate effects that were never

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demonstrated by any psychic so

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far-reaching new technology it appears

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to be to me they were already known in

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the Soviet Union in 69 if you go back to

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entire chapter on Casa Raab he talks

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this force torsion and how it behaves

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I'm not going to go through this but

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there's lots of evidence that anomalies

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which have been observed in physics can

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be traced back to torsion effects in

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many cases one of the reasons we have

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this data available to us appears to be

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the political changes that happen in

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Russia in the early 90s they went

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perestroika the funding at many labs

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especially defense labs was cut off this

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that they released their client states

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to become free countries as you know and

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funding there are security restrictions

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but were released they were able then

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free to publish their papers they had

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enough money to do so but the internet

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papers from work that had gone on over

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scientists in this group made a comment

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in a paper that his work was the

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coordination of eight scientific teams

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in 30 years of research which culminated

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in this effort so you get the impression

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when he began looking over this data

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that there's a lot to it a lot of

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research and five minutes left thank you

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one type of experiment that verified the

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basic and ideas of torsion is the

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following there's a torsion pendulum in

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irreversible process like evaporation of

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acetone for example it is shown to exert

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the end of the torsion pendulum any

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process that has an irreversible process

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effect and he's rehearsing processes

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that produce the right-handed torsion in

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causal refs terminology they omit time

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which entropy decreases at the source

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this energy it's like the yin and yang

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the yin and yang of the Chinese Chi

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terminology it also may well be the

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explanation for dark matter and dark

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energy because one has an attraction

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effect and one has a repulsion effect on

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matter you can relate them to physical

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properties of magnets and other systems

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which have spin I'm gonna skip over some

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of this because the time Tomsk

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University did a series of experiments

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verifying many of the basic aspects of

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torsion the changes changing of

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gyroscopes for example are good sources

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of torsion they change the behavior of

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radiometers if you reflect and

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changes of density of other materials it

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science we would say you can't change

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everything else is happening I'm gonna

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that in chemical reactions in germany

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mask and change the mass of the system

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actually changes he presents it as

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something inexplicable but actually it's

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predicted by the Russian torsion

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experiments and it's consistent with

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them you can also concentrate this

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energy and look at astronomical objects

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when you do the Russians find that there

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are actually three peaks not one you get

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not only the position of the

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object which took at the speed of light

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to get from there to here but you get to

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other peaks one for instantaneous

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propagation and one for advanced

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propagation so it appears as though

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torsion offers something that we haven't

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seen in Western physics a phenomena that

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behaves like the old Simon wheeler paper

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that goes backward in time and it gives

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you a way to get holographic type

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effects where things that can travel

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backwards as well as forward in time and

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I have one minute to get to the

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punchline here the basic explanation of

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the the Spottiswoode data can be

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understood from three essential

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principles number one according to Casa

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Reb and some Western scientists

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left-handed torsion appears to be

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correlated with the increase of ESP or

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psychic ability the ability to more

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accurately perceive psychic messages

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that is part of it and the other piece

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of it this is some espadas data showing

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about a four time increase at the two

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hours per day when at thirteen point

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five hours satiereal when virgo is

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overhead virgo and it turns out to be a

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very large concentration of dark matter

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which by the russian interpretation

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would be left-handed torsion so it

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appears as though by putting these three

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ideas together we can explain the

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thirteen point five our peak in ESP

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reception which would look something

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like this every day when a Berger

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happens to be overhead we're getting a

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little extra of a left-handed torsion

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which is increasing the effect so it

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offers a physical basis for the fifth

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force referred to earlier it may be able

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to explain long range

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consciousness phenomena and many other

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anomalies observed in physics this is

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the website and I'll take questions now

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thank you

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I didn't find that very dark in fact I

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yes Claude you mentioned that that the

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the effects of the Russian Revolution

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during the early 90s you know had a

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devastating effect on their research so

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I wanted to ask you what the current

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state of the Russian research on torsion

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is and also you mentioned that there

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were these torsion generators and I

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wanted to ask you if those are available

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for purchase either in Russia or

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elsewhere sure there are a couple of

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Russians here who may have are people of

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Russian extraction who may have better

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information than I do my own observation

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is that after three or four years of a

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flood of these papers coming out from 91

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until 94 so they began drying up the the

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the flood dried up and I would just

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speculate that I was actually involved

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in some defense work at the time where I

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was interacting with Russian scientists

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in other areas but I saw some of these

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same phenomena happening in several

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different fields and I would say that

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our response was probably very

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disappointing to Russians who were

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idealistic who expected we would be so

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happy that they're now a free society

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would respond in kind and we didn't and

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so I think that there was a after the

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ribose ball there was a separation again

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and I think that today there's actually

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there's some on the internet some

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attacks against some articles like this

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and there's some political things that

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go on so that's that's probably closed

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up a lot that there are devices there's

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a simple device that's called the

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comfort M which basically spins a little

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magnets around my book describes this

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device it's about $1,000 if you - I did

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email and talk to the man who makes

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these things

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his response was not encouraging he said

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well these different ways of measuring

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it cannot can I measure some of the

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effects directly he said yes if you're a

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psychic he was evasive however there are

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some published papers from people using

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this exact device and yet measurable

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effects my book describes some of those

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effects I know us who sue Ben Taub I

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think published a paper or two using

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this device and one of the effects you

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can reduce with this device when you

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pass these torsion waves from the little

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generator through alcohol into distilled

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water run it for a while the distilled

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water begins taking on some of the

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properties of the alcohol so it's a very

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interesting it's related to homeopathy

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obviously so there's some interesting

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aspects there but again I don't I would

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not warranty it okay so oh thank you

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okay yes sir very interesting talk I

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think I've been involved for quite a few

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years in in issues of key and how to

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measure key but measuring it in in human

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terms yes for example if you don't you

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don't have to go further than this room

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to see how the key content of this room

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has gone up as a discussion has got more

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exciting and and there is a simple way

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of actually measuring that then I

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learned that the pranic healing school

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in in Rome and the point is that your

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aura gets broader as you get more

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intellectually excited so one way of

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detecting that if I can get somebody to

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so you you have your trying to estimate

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the key the key level in the room so you

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you actually bring your hands together

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until you feel a slight pressure and

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that is an indication of the degree of

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expansion of your aura all right now you

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start a bit wider out than that because

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it's actually very high now when we

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started this this discussion it was it

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was like now it's like now because this

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room is full of key and I can actually

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detect small particles of key floating

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in the room so all I'm saying is yeah

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right thank you yeah I think one of the

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challenges for for us who are on the

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borderline between the two fields the

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Western and the eastern is to get more

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acceptance of this energy and part of

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that is to find objective means of

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measuring it's certainly there's

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something like the gdv which is a gas

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discharge visualization system from

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korotkov in russia which is basically a

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Kirlian photography system but it

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appears to be correlated with your aura

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and there's been a lot of studies he's

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done to show that it does seem to

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correlate with the physiological states

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of a person so I think we're just sort

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of it's a real firm new frontier now how

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we can measure these energies

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objectively and that's I think the next

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challenge to be to be addressed the time

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of day 13.5 hours to be real it's it's

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that is a that is a time that

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astronomers would be able to explain to

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you it's basically the star time it's

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what stars are overhead at that moment

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it's the constellation Virgo it's a

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particular part of the constellation

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well I guess it would be well now it'll

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be there maybe that whatever's overhead

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it's whatever's overhead and you get the

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effect when it's overhead Claud maybe in

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Star time where we are in Colorado time